APL Apollo Tubes Ltd

Q1 FY24 Earnings Call Analysis

Industrial Products

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fundraise: Nocapex: Yesrevenue: Category 2margin: Category 3orderbook: Yes
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revenue

Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?

- Target to achieve 5 million tons capacity by FY26, with volume CAGR of 20%-25% in next few years. - FY24 volume was 2.62 million tons, short of 3 million tons guidance due to macro and operational factors. - Strong confidence that post-election period Q2 onwards demand and margins will improve. - Volume growth focus supported by ramp-up of Raipur and Dubai plants, increasing capacity to 4.5 million tons by June FY25. - Product mix shifting towards heavier and super heavy sections to capture emerging demand. - International business projected to grow to 200,000-250,000 tons by FY25. - Net cash position and low future CAPEX intensity expected to support cash flow and expansion sustainably. - Expecting to maintain/upscale EBITDA per ton margin alongside volume growth by capitalizing on steel price normalization and improved supply. - Long-term ambition: 10 million tons capacity with Rs. 10,000 per ton EBITDA.
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fundraise

Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?

- No specific mention of new fundraising through debt or equity in the current transcript. - Sanjay Gupta mentioned that for expansion to 5 million tons, there are essentially zero outflows for CAPEX in the near term (around Rs. 500 crores planned). - Existing non-core assets may be deleveraged to manage liabilities. - The company aims to maintain a net cash position, targeting Rs. 1,000 crores plus net cash this year. - Current liabilities on the balance sheet (~Rs. 1,900 crores) may be reduced through negotiations with steel plants or alternative means. - Overall, focus is on organic capacity expansion and cash flow management rather than raising new funds through debt or equity.
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margin

Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?

- APL Apollo targets a volume CAGR of around 20%-25% in the near future, aiming to reach 5 million tons capacity by FY26. - EBITDA growth was 17% in FY24, with management confident in continued improvement post the correction period. - Operating Cash Flow to EBITDA ratio has been above 90%, indicating strong cash generation. - The company expects earnings to regain momentum after a slow Q1 2024 due to election-period caution, anticipating improved performance from Q2 onwards. - Management targets Rs. 10,000 EBITDA per ton at 10 million tons capacity, with potential to achieve Rs. 5,500+ EBITDA per ton at 5 million tons. - They plan net cash generation of Rs. 1,000+ crore this year, aiming to deleverage liabilities (~Rs. 1,900 crore). - Long-term focus includes premiumization of product mix (targeting 70%-75% value-added sales by 5 million tons) and sustained ROCE improvement. - Overall, management is optimistic about strong volume and earnings growth fueled by capacity expansions and steel sector tailwinds.
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orderbook

Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?

- Post-elections, Apollo expects a strong recovery in retail construction demand and private builder order books. - Many projects where Apollo’s designs and products are approved are anticipated to contribute to growth. - The infrastructure sector is also expected to provide significant opportunities for structural steel tubes. - The company foresees a construction boom supported by record presales from real-estate developers. - The total addressable market for structural steel tubes is expected to be multiple times larger than other construction materials, supporting volume growth. - Demand headwinds during the election period are expected to ease post-elections, enabling better order flow and volume growth.
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capex

Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?

- APL Apollo Tubes undertook the biggest CAPEX of its lifetime with around Rs. 2,500 crores over 2 years, including Rs. 1,700-1,800 crores combined for Raipur and Dubai plants and Rs. 600-700 crores for other plants to enhance capacity and value addition. - Current CAPEX outflow is approximately Rs. 500 crores to reach 5 million ton capacity, with infrastructure largely in place. - Additional CAPEX of around Rs. 2,500 to Rs. 3,000 crores is planned for expanding from 5 million ton to 10 million ton capacity. - The company closed liabilities of about Rs. 1,900 crores in its books and aims to generate positive net cash flow this year. - The focus is on capacity ramp-up, value-added segments, and premium products to achieve 10 million ton capacity with Rs. 10,000 per ton EBITDA target. - Strategic investment includes expanding heavy and super heavy sections to stay ahead in the market.