Apollo Pipes Ltd

Q1 FY24 Earnings Call Analysis

Industrial Products

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capex: Yesfundraise: No informationrevenue: Category 2margin: Category 3orderbook: No
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fundraise

Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?

- Apollo Pipes has undertaken significant capex and acquisitions funded through equity infusion and operating cash flows. - For FY '24, they spent INR135 crores on capex and INR120 crores on the Kisan acquisition. - Planned capex: INR200 crores in FY '25 and INR60 crores in FY '26. - The company has explicitly stated that it is not borrowing to fund this capex; the investments are from equity infusion or internal cash flows. - The balance sheet remains debt-free despite these large commitments. - No mention of any upcoming fundraising through debt or equity in the provided transcripts. - Current focus is on organic growth and internal cash flow management without increasing leverage.
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capex

Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?

- FY '24 capex spend: ₹135 crores, including ₹120 crores for Kisan Mouldings acquisition. - Future capex plans: - ₹200 crores in FY '25. - ₹60 crores in FY '26. - Additional ₹150-200 crores planned for two new product lines (OPVC pipes and window profiles) over next 1.5 years. - INR 30-40 crores capex at Kisan Mouldings for capacity enhancements and improvements from internal cash flows. - Greenfield Varanasi plant expansion with ₹120 crores capex to add 30,000 tons capacity, enabling pan-India presence. - Capacity addition plans: - Kisan capacity to increase from 60,000 tons to 80,000 tons by March '27. - Total capacity (including Kisan) was 216,000 tons as of March 2024. - Investment funded through equity infusion and operating cash flow; company remains debt-free. - Capex supports growth in new value-added products and expansion of production lines.
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revenue

Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?

- Apollo Pipes aims for a 25%-30% CAGR growth in sales volume and revenue over the next 3-4 years. - The company targets INR3,000 crores top line by FY '26-'27 with EBITDA margins improving from the current 10% to around 12%-13% as scale increases. - New product segments (OPVC pipes and window profiles) and the Kisan acquisition are expected to drive significant incremental revenue and EBITDA. - Kisan Mouldings is expected to grow to INR800-900 crores revenue with 11%-12% EBITDA margins within 2-3 years. - The Varanasi greenfield plant will add 30,000 tons capacity, enabling pan-India presence and supporting volume growth. - Ad spend will slightly increase from 1.5%-2% to around 2%-2.25% of the top line in FY '25 to support growth. - Dealer network expansion continues with 57 new dealers added in the past year and plans to further grow the dealer base. - The company expects working capital days to reduce below 60 by FY '26, improving cash flow for sustained growth.
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margin

Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?

- Apollo Pipes targets 25%-30% CAGR revenue, volume, EBITDA, and PAT growth over the next 2-3 years. - EBITDA margin guidance is maintained around 10% currently, expected to improve to 12%-13% at INR3,000 crores revenue level. - The company aims to increase group EBITDA from INR100 crores to INR350-400 crores in 3-4 years through organic growth and acquisitions (like Kisan). - New product investments (OPVC pipes and window profiles) with INR150-200 crores capex are expected to generate INR100 crores EBITDA in 3 years. - Kisan acquisition is projected to contribute INR100 crores EBITDA with 10%-11% margins at INR800-900 crores revenue in 3 years. - Operating leverage and working capital efficiency improvements expected to boost ROCE to 25%-30%. - The company expects superior earnings growth driven by capacity expansion, new product ramp-up, and market share gains post FY'24 base margins.
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orderbook

Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?

- Apollo Pipes expects government project order inflow primarily during the March quarter, as contractors try to finish work before fiscal year-end. - In Q4 FY'24, orders were present but the company consciously avoided aggressive order booking due to unattractive conditions and working capital concerns. - Project sales constitute about 10% of revenue; 10% is government project sales. - The company prefers high-margin project orders and avoids low-margin orders to maintain return on capital. - The project order book is affected by competitive intensity, especially on the government side. - Apollo Pipes is cautious on working capital deployment for government projects, choosing to prioritize trade and dealer sales. - The company expects project sales to remain a smaller and selective part of total revenue going forward.