Apollo Pipes Ltd
Q1 FY24 Earnings Call Analysis
Industrial Products
capex: Yesfundraise: No informationrevenue: Category 2margin: Category 3orderbook: No
💰fundraise
Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?
- Apollo Pipes has undertaken significant capex and acquisitions funded through equity infusion and operating cash flows.
- For FY '24, they spent INR135 crores on capex and INR120 crores on the Kisan acquisition.
- Planned capex: INR200 crores in FY '25 and INR60 crores in FY '26.
- The company has explicitly stated that it is not borrowing to fund this capex; the investments are from equity infusion or internal cash flows.
- The balance sheet remains debt-free despite these large commitments.
- No mention of any upcoming fundraising through debt or equity in the provided transcripts.
- Current focus is on organic growth and internal cash flow management without increasing leverage.
🏗️capex
Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?
- FY '24 capex spend: ₹135 crores, including ₹120 crores for Kisan Mouldings acquisition.
- Future capex plans:
- ₹200 crores in FY '25.
- ₹60 crores in FY '26.
- Additional ₹150-200 crores planned for two new product lines (OPVC pipes and window profiles) over next 1.5 years.
- INR 30-40 crores capex at Kisan Mouldings for capacity enhancements and improvements from internal cash flows.
- Greenfield Varanasi plant expansion with ₹120 crores capex to add 30,000 tons capacity, enabling pan-India presence.
- Capacity addition plans:
- Kisan capacity to increase from 60,000 tons to 80,000 tons by March '27.
- Total capacity (including Kisan) was 216,000 tons as of March 2024.
- Investment funded through equity infusion and operating cash flow; company remains debt-free.
- Capex supports growth in new value-added products and expansion of production lines.
📊revenue
Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?
- Apollo Pipes aims for a 25%-30% CAGR growth in sales volume and revenue over the next 3-4 years.
- The company targets INR3,000 crores top line by FY '26-'27 with EBITDA margins improving from the current 10% to around 12%-13% as scale increases.
- New product segments (OPVC pipes and window profiles) and the Kisan acquisition are expected to drive significant incremental revenue and EBITDA.
- Kisan Mouldings is expected to grow to INR800-900 crores revenue with 11%-12% EBITDA margins within 2-3 years.
- The Varanasi greenfield plant will add 30,000 tons capacity, enabling pan-India presence and supporting volume growth.
- Ad spend will slightly increase from 1.5%-2% to around 2%-2.25% of the top line in FY '25 to support growth.
- Dealer network expansion continues with 57 new dealers added in the past year and plans to further grow the dealer base.
- The company expects working capital days to reduce below 60 by FY '26, improving cash flow for sustained growth.
📈margin
Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?
- Apollo Pipes targets 25%-30% CAGR revenue, volume, EBITDA, and PAT growth over the next 2-3 years.
- EBITDA margin guidance is maintained around 10% currently, expected to improve to 12%-13% at INR3,000 crores revenue level.
- The company aims to increase group EBITDA from INR100 crores to INR350-400 crores in 3-4 years through organic growth and acquisitions (like Kisan).
- New product investments (OPVC pipes and window profiles) with INR150-200 crores capex are expected to generate INR100 crores EBITDA in 3 years.
- Kisan acquisition is projected to contribute INR100 crores EBITDA with 10%-11% margins at INR800-900 crores revenue in 3 years.
- Operating leverage and working capital efficiency improvements expected to boost ROCE to 25%-30%.
- The company expects superior earnings growth driven by capacity expansion, new product ramp-up, and market share gains post FY'24 base margins.
📋orderbook
Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?
- Apollo Pipes expects government project order inflow primarily during the March quarter, as contractors try to finish work before fiscal year-end.
- In Q4 FY'24, orders were present but the company consciously avoided aggressive order booking due to unattractive conditions and working capital concerns.
- Project sales constitute about 10% of revenue; 10% is government project sales.
- The company prefers high-margin project orders and avoids low-margin orders to maintain return on capital.
- The project order book is affected by competitive intensity, especially on the government side.
- Apollo Pipes is cautious on working capital deployment for government projects, choosing to prioritize trade and dealer sales.
- The company expects project sales to remain a smaller and selective part of total revenue going forward.
