Apollo Pipes Ltd
Q2 FY24 Earnings Call Analysis
Industrial Products
fundraise: Yescapex: Yesrevenue: Category 2margin: Category 2orderbook: No
π°fundraise
Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?
- No new debt fundraising is planned; the company remains debt-free despite ongoing capex commitments.
- Future capex (INR100-150 crores annually for next 2-3 years) will be mainly funded through internal cash flows and balance equity infusion.
- Balance equity infusion is expected from promoters and employees via preferential allotment.
- Capex includes projects like Varanasi plant expansion, O-PVC lines, window profiles, and potential South India capacity expansion.
- No mention of fresh debt; focus is on funding growth via equity and internal accruals.
ποΈcapex
Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?
- Current capex includes INR250 crores total: INR150 crores for Varanasi plant expansion, INR50 crores for O-PVC lines, and INR50 crores for window profiling.
- Varanasi plant expansion adds 40,000 tons capacity, expected operational in Q4 FY '25 with ~70-80% utilization in Q4.
- O-PVC lines: 1 line operational in Q1 FY25, 2 more to be operational by end of FY25; majority capex mostly done, balance paid as machines arrive.
- Window profiling project underway; ~90% capex yet to be spent, expected ready by end FY '25.
- Future capex: INR150 crores projected for FY '26 (residual Varanasi capex, O-PVC, window profiling, and new Southern India expansion).
- Southern India plant expected investment around INR200 crores; not part of INR2,600 crore FY '27 revenue target β will be additional.
- Annual capex guidance post current projects around INR100-150 crores funded through internal accruals and preferential allotment equity.
πrevenue
Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?
- Apollo Pipes targets a consolidated revenue of INR1,650-1,750 crores for FY25, including Kisan and new products.
- Standalone Apollo Pipes aims for INR1,250 crores revenue in FY25 with 25% volume growth; Kisan targets INR450-500 crores.
- By FY27, consolidated revenue is targeted at around INR2,600 crores, implying a CAGR of approximately 25-27% over 3 years.
- Channel inventory is at minimal levels currently; volume growth of over 30% is expected in the coming quarters once prices stabilize.
- Varanasi plant expansion will add 40,000 tons capacity, partially operational by Q4 FY25, aiding growth.
- O-PVC pipe lines are ramping up, contributing ~5% revenue in FY25 and expected 8-10% by FY26.
- Kisan sales expected to grow from INR65 crores in Q1 FY25 to INR450-500 crores in FY25, reaching INR750-800 crores by FY27 with 10% EBITDA margin.
- Company confident of achieving 25-30% CAGR in revenues and volumes over next 3-4 years.
πmargin
Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?
- Apollo Pipes targets a consolidated revenue growth CAGR of 25%-30% over the next 3-4 years, aiming to reach INR 2,600+ crores by FY '27 from around INR 1,000 crores in FY '24.
- Standalone revenue expected at INR 1,250 crores in FY '25 and INR 1,600 crores by FY '27, implying ~27% growth year-on-year post FY '25.
- EBITDA margins for Apollo Pipes expected to move towards 12%-13%, currently around 10%, affected initially by capex and operating leverage.
- Kisan Mouldings, now profitable, targets growing revenues from INR 65 crores in Q1 to INR 450-500 crores in FY '25 and about INR 750-800 crores by FY '27, with EBITDA margins improving to 10%-12%.
- O-PVC pipes expected to contribute 5% of revenue in FY '25 and 8%-10% by FY '26, with higher EBITDA margins than blended company margins.
- Profitability improvements are expected through value-added products, capacity expansions (Varanasi plant, O-PVC lines), and increased operational efficiencies.
πorderbook
Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?
- The transcript does not explicitly disclose the current or expected order book or pending orders in specific numerical terms.
- Karan Bhateliaβs question on channel inventory suggests minimal current inventory due to price disturbances, indicating potential for order replenishment as prices rise.
- Management highlighted a recovery in sales and strong volume growth expected ahead, with Airbus targeting 25%-30% CAGR over the next 4 years.
- Apollo Pipes is focusing on quality sales rather than padding order books artificially, as inferred from their cautious stance on HDPE orders and cautious revenue growth targets.
- Kisan business is being integrated and ramped up with a focus on high-quality sales.
- Varanasi plant expansion and new product lines (O-PVC, window profiles) are expected to contribute significant new business from FY '25 onwards.
- Management expects solid recovery in North and South markets backed by brownfield capacity additions, implying improving order inflows.
