Permanent Magnets Ltd

Q1 FY23 Earnings Call Analysis

Electrical Equipment

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fundraise: No informationcapex: Yesrevenue: Category 2margin: Category 3orderbook: Yes
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orderbook

Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?

- The company did not specify an exact number for current order book or pending orders. - The number of projects in the pipeline has increased substantially compared to last year. - Projects are at various stages: lead stage, RFQ (Request For Quotation), price approved, prototyping, designing, and commercial start. - Some projects are expected to go commercial in the next 2-3 years (FY2024, 2025, 2026). - Pipeline monitoring systems have been put in place to track projects and gain better revenue visibility. - The company focuses on selectively choosing projects with reasonably good margins to build a robust pipeline. - Growth expectations link closely to converting these projects into commercial orders over time.
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fundraise

Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?

- The transcript does not explicitly mention any current or planned fundraising through debt or equity. - There is discussion about capital expenditure, including: - Possible joint venture for a neodymium facility with capex yet to be finalized. - New plant and related capex around Rs. 25-30 Crores for land and facility. - No direct references to raising funds via equity or debt during the call. - Working capital has increased due to higher inventories and receivables, but no mention of needing external financing to manage this. - The company is focusing on internal resources, suitable hiring, and planned capex; no investor fundraising disclosed. In summary, based on available information, there is no announcement or indication of new equity or debt fundraising at present or in the near future.
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capex

Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?

- Exploring potential joint venture (JV) with Quadrant International for setting up a neodymium magnet facility; capex details not yet finalized. - Total capex planned for new plant relocation involves about Rs.10 Crores for land and Rs.15-20 Crores for facility, totaling Rs.25-30 Crores. - Capex for various machinery varies by product; asset turns differ accordingly, with plans to add capacity as needed. - Investment focused on capability enhancement to support broader product portfolios and future growth opportunities. - No confirmed capex figures for JV or new facility yet; feasibility and scale under evaluation. - Strategic priority includes adding manufacturing and technological capabilities and moving towards modules in some product categories.
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revenue

Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?

- The company expects 20% to 25% growth in revenue for FY2024 based on current visibility (Page 9, 26). - Growth is driven primarily by automotive and energy meter segments, with automotive segment share increasing from 25% to 32% in FY2023 (Page 4). - Approximately 85% to 90% of automotive sales are toward EVs, a rapidly growing segment globally (Page 4). - The energy meter segment is also growing well, with top three global customers already engaged (Page 13). - Automotive revenues have potential to cross Rs.100 Crores in the next 2-3 years as projects commercialize and scale up (Page 13, 23). - Module business is nascent (Rs.2 Crores in FY2023) but expected to scale up over the next few years (Page 6, 21). - There is a broad and growing project pipeline in various stages, providing good revenue visibility over next 3 years (Page 5, 13).
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margin

Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?

- The company expects revenue growth of about 20-25% for FY2024 based on current visibility. - Margins are expected to remain stable at similar levels with the current product mix; no major increase or decrease anticipated soon. - Operating leverage is unlikely to significantly improve margins despite scaling, as the company selectively pursues projects with reasonably good margins. - The company is optimistic about scaling up new businesses such as modules from a small base, though no specific revenue targets are provided. - Growth drivers include increased wallet share from existing customers in energy meters and automotive segments, especially EVs (85-90% of automotive sales). - Risks include potential global recession and forex fluctuations, but these are mitigated through natural hedges. - Earnings/profit growth is linked to the scaling of large customers and new product commercialization but no explicit EPS guidance was mentioned.