Permanent Magnets Ltd

Q1 FY25 Earnings Call Analysis

Electrical Equipment

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fundraise: No informationcapex: Yesrevenue: Category 2margin: Category 3orderbook: No
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fundraise

Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?

- The company is planning to fund a significant upcoming capex related to backward integration in their magnet business. - Funding will be a mix of debt and equity, with plans to set up pilot facilities before scaling up. - No specific details or timelines for the fundraising are mentioned. - The company is cautious due to complexities and uncertainties, especially arising from geopolitical restrictions around technology transfer. - The focus is on strategic funding to expand manufacturing and supply chain capabilities in India for rare earth magnets, a critical area for EVs and renewable energy.
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capex

Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?

- Planning to invest INR 15 to 20 crores for expansion, including adding a new furnace by December to enhance capacity and serve growing demand (Page 14). - Capex aimed at scaling alloy and relay businesses with peak revenue potential target of INR 70 to 100 crores (Page 14). - Long-term plan to establish full supply chain and manufacturing for rare earth magnets in India, involving significant future capex with mixed debt-equity funding (Page 9). - Setting up a relay business as forward integration of shunt business, indicating strategic investment in relay manufacturing (Page 16). - Acquired 8 acres of land for consolidating operations and new plant setup; land development and land approvals expected to take 2-3 years with plant operations starting afterward (Page 19-20). - Focus on investing in high potential growth areas like alloys, relays, and domestic magnet manufacturing to drive future growth (Pages 5 and 19).
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revenue

Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?

- FY '26 revenue growth expected around 20% (± some variance) driven by new initiatives, especially alloy and relay businesses. - Growth is lumpy, could see sudden jumps depending on business clicks. - Quantum Magnetics subsidiary faces geopolitical challenges but plans for establishing rare earth magnet manufacturing in India to support EV and renewable sectors. - Alloy business capacity to increase 6-7 times from calendar year 2026 with new furnace addition; current revenue potential INR 20-30 crores for FY '26. - Relay business production to start in H2 FY '26, with revenue potential up to INR 70-100 crores on scale-up. - EV segment demand currently muted globally, especially from Western OEMs; Indian EV market outlook positive, expected to contribute to sales growth gradually. - Smart meter export business grew, but future remains uncertain; diversification through relay products planned to broaden customer base.
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margin

Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?

- PML expects around 20% top-line growth in FY26, driven by new initiatives in alloy and relay businesses. - Margins likely to remain at current levels (~14%-15%) unless EV segment demand rebounds significantly. - Earlier high margins (20%+) were driven by customized EV products, but now business is shifting toward more standardized, lower-margin products. - Ongoing investments in capabilities and customer diversification aim for long-term fast growth, though growth will be lumpy. - Developmental expenses and one-time charges affected short-term margins; these are expected to yield returns in future periods. - Business expansion includes adding new furnace capacity and setting up relay manufacturing, targeting INR 70-100 crores revenue from these new segments. - Geopolitical disruptions have led to cautious short-term outlook but increased focus on domestic supply chains may help margin improvements over time.
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orderbook

Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?

- The company currently has a modest order book with some challenges affecting growth in certain segments, especially EV and smart meters. - For the alloys business, recent order inflows in April have been positive, reinforcing confidence for FY26. - The smart meter segment is facing selective booking by customers due to implementation challenges, but there is a large untapped demand (around 90% of the program still to be implemented across India). - The relay business is expected to start production in the second half of FY26, with customer ramp-up happening gradually. - Multiple customers (10-15) are in the pipeline for alloys, with varying volumes, but focus remains on profitable segments. - For export meters, approvals may take longer but eventual growth of 5-10% is expected over the next 2-3 years. - Overall, order inflows are lumpy; growth depends on new initiatives like alloy and relay businesses.