Sonata Software Ltd
Q3 FY23 Earnings Call Analysis
IT - Software
fundraise: No informationcapex: Yesrevenue: Category 3margin: Category 3orderbook: Yes
π°fundraise
Any current/future new fundraising through debt or equity?
- The company borrowed about $55 million during the acquisition of Quant, resulting in finance costs related to interest on this loan.
- This loan carries an interest cost of approximately Rs. 6.5 crores per quarter (~Rs. 17-20 crores impact including unwinding of interest), which will reduce as repayments are made.
- The loan is planned to be repaid sometime in the next year, with associated interest costs reducing substantially after payments in March 2024 and March 2025, and finally concluding with a payment in August 2025.
- There is no mention of any new or planned fundraising through additional debt or equity in the current call.
- The company appears to be focused on repaying existing debt rather than raising new funds at this time.
ποΈcapex
Any current/future capex/capital investment/strategic investment?
- Sonata Software is continuing to invest in AI capabilities and related talent, as highlighted by ongoing AI-focused hiring despite some quarterly hiring delays.
- Investments are being made to support large deals and digital transformation programs, especially in modernization engineering with cloud and data focus.
- The company has made strategic acquisitions like Quant Systems to strengthen its offerings, especially in data privacy and cross-selling opportunities.
- Capital expenses relating to acquisitions include borrowings tied to Quant acquisition with associated finance costs over the next 2 years due to deferred payments.
- Investments in platformization and modernization are core to Sonataβs strategy to win and scale large enterprise deals.
- The company indicated plans to maintain margin levels in the lower 20s internationally, balancing investments with profitability.
- No detailed breakdown of specific capital expenditure amounts was disclosed, but strategic investments are a key theme for growth and competitiveness.
πrevenue
Future growth expectations in sales/revenue/volumes?
- International service business grew 40% YoY and 4.6% QoQ, with expectations to maintain high-teens YoY growth going forward.
- Continued strong order booking with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.24x and a large deal pipeline up 25% quarter-on-quarter.
- Large deals (e.g., $160 million deal) are fully ramped up; additional deals (like TUI) expected to ramp up further in H2 and next fiscal year.
- Growth driven by modernization engineering, cloud, data platforms, and new large enterprise clients (17 clients >$3M revenue, 11 clients >$5M).
- Expansion expected from Quant Systems acquisition and bundled service offerings leading to accelerated growth on new clients.
- Optimistic long-term growth, targeting $1.5 billion revenue by FY26 with international EBITDA in low-20s.
- Headcount and investments in AI and key tech areas to support growth, with an improving utilization rate (84.2%).
πmargin
Future growth expectations in earnings/operating earnings/profits/EPS?
- Sonata Software expects continued strong growth, targeting revenue of $1.5 billion by FY26.
- International business saw 40% YoY growth this quarter; management confident of maintaining high-teens growth YoY.
- EBITDA margin for international business to remain in the lower 20% range in the medium term, with ongoing investments.
- Consolidated EPS improved from Rs. 8.66 to Rs. 8.96 quarter-on-quarter; PAT grew 10.2% YoY.
- Large deal pipeline increased 25% quarter-on-quarter, with 32 large deals in the pipeline supporting future growth.
- Amortization and interest cost related to acquisitions will reduce significantly by next year, potentially boosting PAT.
- Employee costs may stabilize; headcount expected to rise with ongoing AI investments, supporting growth momentum.
- Management remains optimistic about long-term growth despite potential softness in certain verticals (e.g., TMT).
πorderbook
Current/ Expected Orderbook/ Pending Orders?
- The international business order booking for Q2 stood at a book-to-bill ratio of 1.24x, which is industry-leading.
- The large deal pipeline has increased by 25% quarter-on-quarter.
- Sonata has 32 large deals in the pipeline currently.
- The large deal of $160 million announced earlier in the year is fully ramped up and the transition is complete.
- The company continues to see a strong pipeline and confidence in its value proposition across verticals and geographies.
