Permanent Magnets LtdQ1 FY23Electrical Equipment

Permanent Magnets Ltd

Q1 FY23 Earnings Call Analysis

Management growth scorecard

Revenue

Category 2

Margin

Category 3

Fundraise

N/A

Order

Yes

Capex

Yes

2 of 4 growth signals are positive.

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Revenue guidance

Category 2

→The company expects 20% to 25% growth in revenue for FY2024 based on current visibility (Page 9, 26).
→Growth is driven primarily by automotive and energy meter segments, with automotive segment share increasing from 25% to 32% in FY2023 (Page 4).
→Approximately 85% to 90% of automotive sales are toward EVs, a rapidly growing segment globally (Page 4).
→The energy meter segment is also growing well, with top three global customers already engaged (Page 13).
→Automotive revenues have potential to cross Rs.100 Crores in the next 2-3 years as projects commercialize and scale up (Page 13, 23).
→Module business is nascent (Rs.2 Crores in FY2023) but expected to scale up over the next few years (Page 6, 21).
→There is a broad and growing project pipeline in various stages, providing good revenue visibility over next 3 years (Page 5, 13).

Margin guidance

Category 3

→The company expects revenue growth of about 20-25% for FY2024 based on current visibility.
→Margins are expected to remain stable at similar levels with the current product mix; no major increase or decrease anticipated soon.
→Operating leverage is unlikely to significantly improve margins despite scaling, as the company selectively pursues projects with reasonably good margins.
→The company is optimistic about scaling up new businesses such as modules from a small base, though no specific revenue targets are provided.
→Growth drivers include increased wallet share from existing customers in energy meters and automotive segments, especially EVs (85-90% of automotive sales).
→Risks include potential global recession and forex fluctuations, but these are mitigated through natural hedges.
→Earnings/profit growth is linked to the scaling of large customers and new product commercialization but no explicit EPS guidance was mentioned.

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Fundraise plans

- The transcript does not explicitly mention any current or planned fundraising through debt or equity. - There is discussion about capital expenditure, including: - Possible joint venture for a neodymium facility with capex yet to be finalized. - New plant and related capex around Rs. 25-30 Crores for land and facility. - No direct references to raising funds via equity or debt during the call. - Working capital has increased due to higher inventories and receivables, but no mention of needing external financing to manage this. - The company is focusing on internal resources, suitable hiring, and planned capex; no investor fundraising disclosed. In summary, based on available information, there is no announcement or indication of new equity or debt fundraising at present or in the near future.

Order book

Yes

→The company did not specify an exact number for current order book or pending orders.
→The number of projects in the pipeline has increased substantially compared to last year.
→Projects are at various stages: lead stage, RFQ (Request For Quotation), price approved, prototyping, designing, and commercial start.
→Some projects are expected to go commercial in the next 2-3 years (FY2024, 2025, 2026).
→Pipeline monitoring systems have been put in place to track projects and gain better revenue visibility.
→The company focuses on selectively choosing projects with reasonably good margins to build a robust pipeline.
→Growth expectations link closely to converting these projects into commercial orders over time.

Capex plans

Yes

→Exploring potential joint venture (JV) with Quadrant International for setting up a neodymium magnet facility; capex details not yet finalized.
→Total capex planned for new plant relocation involves about Rs.10 Crores for land and Rs.15-20 Crores for facility, totaling Rs.25-30 Crores.
→Capex for various machinery varies by product; asset turns differ accordingly, with plans to add capacity as needed.
→Investment focused on capability enhancement to support broader product portfolios and future growth opportunities.
→No confirmed capex figures for JV or new facility yet; feasibility and scale under evaluation.
→Strategic priority includes adding manufacturing and technological capabilities and moving towards modules in some product categories.

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