Bharat Heavy Electricals LtdQ1 FY23Electrical Equipment

Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd

Q1 FY23 Earnings Call Analysis

Management growth scorecard

Revenue

Category 3

Margin

Category 2

Fundraise

N/A

Order

Yes

Capex

Yes

2 of 4 growth signals are positive.

Revenue guidance

Category 3

→India’s economic growth remains strong with a forecast over 6% in FY24, supporting infrastructure investment and industrial expansion.
→Thermal power remains a major focus with a robust pipeline: ~3,700 MW favorably placed, ~6,000 MW under bidding, and ~9,000 MW expected to be bid soon.
→Industrial orders, such as defense guns, show strong opportunities with expected business of INR 3,500-4,000 crores in FY24.
→Significant new orders in industrial systems, including a large Vande Bharat rail project order exceeding INR 15,000 crores (including taxes) started this year.
→Expectation of revenue growth aided by improved operational efficiency, new technology adoption, and diversification into non-thermal segments over 3-5 years.
→Focus on executing large orders timely and leveraging long-term maintenance contracts (e.g., 35-year Vande Bharat maintenance) for sustained revenue streams.
→Overall, BHEL anticipates gradual growth driven by thermal, industrial, and infrastructure sectors alongside ongoing modernization and cost optimization efforts.

Category 2

→BHEL does not provide explicit revenue or profit guidance for FY24 or beyond.
→The company expects higher margins in FY24 compared to recent years, depending on competition and cost-cutting effectiveness.
→New orders in industrial segments may influence margins, but specific guidance is not provided.
→Profitability from the Vande Bharat rail tender is expected primarily in the 35-year maintenance period rather than the initial supply.
→Efforts to reduce provisions and increase recoveries are ongoing, aiming for no net creation of provisions in future.
→Operational focus on timely project delivery is expected to improve financial performance.
→BHEL anticipates growth from thermal power orders, with around 3,700 MW pipeline favorably placed and additional bids underway.
→Spares business and manpower productivity showed improvement in FY23, aiding EBITDA growth by 11%.
→Overall, margins and earnings are expected to improve with order execution and diversification into new technology areas.

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→There is no specific guidance or mention of current or future fundraising through debt or equity in the provided transcript.
→Dr. Nalin Shinghal explicitly declined to give any capex numbers or financial guidance at this stage (Page 17).
→The discussions mostly revolve around operational focus, project execution, provisions, and new order opportunities rather than fundraising.
→No direct references to any planned debt issuance or equity raising were made during the Q&A.
→The company is focusing on improving turnover per employee, re-skilling, and strategic capex in new technology areas and JVs but without specifying funding sources.

Yes

→Total outstanding order book as of March 31, 2023: INR 91,336 crores (net of taxes).
→With the Vande Bharat train set order finalized in April 2023, the order book crossed INR 1 lakh crores (excluding taxes).
→Significant orders in FY '23 include:
→ - 2x660 MW EPC order of NTPC Talcher thermal power plant.
→ - 850 MW Ratle hydropower project.
→ - R&M of GSECL Ukai TPS unit no. 3.
→ - Seven STG units totaling 383 MW for industrial customers.
→ - 22 WAG-9H locomotives.
→ - 20 upgraded SRGMs for Indian Navy.
→ - Centrifugal compressors for refinery applications.
→Industry segment orders closed near INR 9,500 crores in FY '23.
→Long pending power sector slow-moving orders approximately INR 17,000 crores.
→Defense segment: expected 20 guns orders worth INR 3,500-4,000 crores in FY '24.
→Vande Bharat order: over INR 23,500 crores (excluding GST), 80 train sets, spanning over 6 years execution.

Yes

→BHEL is formulating a capex strategy focusing on replacing old machines with degraded performance and tolerances, essential for future needs.
→Capital expenditure includes investments in joint ventures (JVs) and new technology areas such as coal gasification.
→Significant capex is underway in defense, for instance, upgrading the SRGM (Surface-to-Surface Guided Rocket Munition) facility to support new technologies.
→Employee capability building is emphasized, focusing on re-skilling, with minimal new recruitment apart from lateral induction and entry-level hires.
→No specific capex numbers are provided currently.
→Efforts are ongoing to improve operational efficiency and turnover per employee, supporting strategic growth beyond traditional thermal power.

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